Dolph changed Hollywood forever

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Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby dolphage on 14 Feb 2009, 12:47

The big blond, blue eyed, bad guy is a common figure in movies today. He is usually the right hand man of the main villain.
I would say that before DL, blond hair and blue eyes automatically meant good guy, and that he was the first to really brake that mold.
You could argue that Rutger Hauer made it big in Blade Runner with a similar look before DL, but that´s not excactly true. Hauer had white hair and light blue eyes and came across as very unnatural looking (for good reason), he was kinda stocky and didn´t have the classic movie good looks. Dolph was the first sterotypically "hero looking actor" to be a bad guy. Now you see it all the time.
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby Jox on 15 Feb 2009, 12:28

You might be right, I can't think of other Aryan baddies before although I'm sure we can find a few.
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby Nathan on 15 Feb 2009, 16:52

I think that Dolph is an underrated actor. He can play a silent, robotic villain like Ivan Drago or a crazy psycho like in Unisol. I hope The Expendables script allows him to put that great villain that he plays to use...I am so pumped up for The Expendables already and I hope that Dolph is a real psycho in it. I know he will be a traitor and play a bad guy in the end but you know something, I don't care because at least Dolph has the guts and the skills to play the bad Expendable.
Even playing the good guy Dolph is a very likeable guy and even when you watch him on-screen you are rooting for him because you can tell that's he's a nice person..unlike watching someone like Seagal, you know he's an arrogant bastard. Dolph kicks ass.
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby Mosquito on 15 Feb 2009, 23:28

Nathan wrote:I know he will be a traitor and play a bad guy in the end but you know something, I don't care because at least Dolph has the guts and the skills to play the bad Expendable.


Of course we all want Dolph to be a good guy because we all think he should be. But on the other hand: UniSol was one of his very best performances and he has shown several times that he's best when he's bad. So I expect this to be another kick ass performance - and I expect that this will put some new drive to his acting career (we already know that his directorial career is already on the right track).
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby Warchild on 19 Feb 2009, 04:59

Dolph was awesome as a baddie in Rocky 4, Universal Soldier and the movie with Keanu, don't forget that Dolph was awesome too in The Russian Specialist, Missionary Man and The Inquiry as a good guy, he plays a dark character.
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby dolphage on 19 Feb 2009, 14:06

I just watched XXX, with Vin Diesel the other day, and lo and behold; the "Dolph Lundgren right hand man" was there. Big bleached blond dude.
The main bad guy has two bodyguard type guys in that movie. One is, another Hollywood classic, the big fat dark haired BEARDED guy and the other one is the DL clone.
Just another example...
I´m telling you; that carachter didn´t exist before Dolph "fckng" Lundgren came to town!
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby Mosquito on 19 Feb 2009, 21:19

Hm... what about Burt Lancaster? He could be quite evil, too.
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby dolphage on 20 Feb 2009, 23:34

The main henchman in Tomorrow Never Dies (Bond), "Herr.Stamper (Götz Otto)" is another DL clone.

Burt Lancaster? I don´t know... He wasn´t really a giant, arian looking henchman in any movie, was he? What I´m saying is that there is a particular KIND of bad guy that Dolph was the blueprint for, I´m not saying he was the first ever Movie Bad Guy!
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Re: Dolph changed Hollywood forever

Postby Mosquito on 21 Feb 2009, 17:24

Well I'm not sure about "arian" but Lancaster was blond and blue eyed and at 1,85m at least of good height (quite tall when you look at the U.S. average I guess). According to his imdb bio he was called "Mr Muscles and Teeth" and that sums it up quite well. ;-) But yes, I can see that he was hardly a henchman but rose to fame and therefore to leading roles almost instantly. So maybe the comparison wasn't accurate.
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