MISSIONARY MAN (Dolph Lundgren, 2007)

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Postby The_Canadian on 08 Feb 2008, 09:47

Say what you will about his review, you have to admit his "extra tidbit" at the end was pretty funny.
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Postby Jox on 08 Feb 2008, 11:27

:lol: Absolutely! :wink:
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Postby Jox on 09 Feb 2008, 12:03

And here's another quick interview with the DL for the road... It can't hurt!
http://www.insidesocal.com/outinhollywood/2008/02/catching_up_with_dolph_lundgre.html
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Postby Darling on 09 Feb 2008, 20:46

On friday I saw MM.The movie is not that bad,but I dont like this Kind of Movies.I think it is a little bit violent for FSK 16.On the German DVD is only one deleted scene and an alternative Beginning.but this is very uninteresting.The Movies The Mechanik and Direct Action are much more better for me.
Dolph is looking very good and the shirtless scene is very sexy!!!!The best scene of the whole Movie "lol"
Are there on the UK DVD more deleted scenes???
By the Way I think the German DVD is cut!!!
I hope that the next Movie will be better.
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Postby Mosquito on 09 Feb 2008, 22:16

Well I checked out one of his other posts and his comments and I got the impression that he has a problem.
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Postby Mosquito on 09 Feb 2008, 23:10

Darling wrote:By the Way I think the German DVD is cut!!!


The OFDB says no: http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&fid=136981&vid=233363

But I haven't watched it yet. Didn't even find the time for renting "Inquiry". Shame on me. But I watched Red Scorpion again two days ago. Yaaaaahhhh... love that movie even though he doesn't. ;-)
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Postby Darling on 10 Feb 2008, 02:53

Maybe it is not cut, I don`t know, but the US DVD of MM are 93 Minutes and 6 deleted Scenes.The German DVD is just 89 Min.
By the way Mosquito you have a very good Taste ,in Red Scorpion Dolph is looking much more sexiest!!!
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Postby Jox on 10 Feb 2008, 14:53

Sony announced 6 deleted scenes but even the US disc has only 2.

And may I recall that PAL is running a little faster than NTSC making running time of a 93 shorter of 3-4 mins; therefore 89 mins for the German DVD sounds about right.
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Postby Jox on 11 Feb 2008, 23:20

Now who asked for a TRAILER already?!!!!

Here's a first: the trailer (on the homepage) comes out 3 weeks after the feature, hum... :?

This would have been a great teaser by the way...
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Postby The_Canadian on 12 Feb 2008, 01:36

About damn time...

Oh well, maybe it'll be added onto the Final Inquiry dvd and help boost sales?
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Missionary man...hot or not?

Postby njonesky102 on 12 Feb 2008, 02:26

I bought missionary man the other day and was excited to sit down and watch my favourite guy do his stuff. I felt that the film could have been a little more well thought out, and explosive. I also disliked the dark picture, although I did appreciate the effect that Dolph was trying to achieve.

So what does everyone else think?
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Postby Jox on 12 Feb 2008, 11:57

The interviews keep on coming, here's another good one from UGO
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=18202&sectionId=2
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Postby Tom on 12 Feb 2008, 13:16

The thing that bugs me is that it's very clear on screen, that Dolph wasn't given enough time, money, or good enough crew. The fact is there probably wasn't much of a stunt crew, there probably wasn't much involved in sets etc, and the very short shoot schedule is evident. I don't think this film has the repeat value of The Mechanik, or even The Defender- I was very excited first viewing but on second and onwards is where I usually pick apart the films more so. I still like MM, it does deliver a good standard DTV package and the finale packs a punch, but there seemed to be far too many shortcuts on it- mainly down to the producers.

Looking at the making of the Mechanik you see a total level higher. Bigger crew, more equipment, sets, a proper stunt team. Also of course, more interesting locales, far better cast and a longer shoot. Elsewhere the more experienced hands of the second unit directors, the DP and the AD's in the Mechanik, and Defender. It seemed that key roles where given to people without much experience in MM who got promoted to higher levels from previous gigs. It's also evident that the sound mix was not given the same time and effort as The Mechanik. There seemed a lot of typical stock sound effects really.

It's a little annoying because Dolph at times managed to pull of some great stuff- but the film just isn't as consistently on the mark as his previous two directing gigs, that's down to it being so restrictive and cheap. The location was obviously more expensive than Eastern Europe, but still at the lower end of the States in both price, and also interesting visual- the locations were extremely dull. Andrew Stevens is without doubt one of the worst producers to work with on a creative level. He's all about the money. Also super 16 just aint as good as 35.

Apart from that I liked it! :lol:
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Postby Jox on 13 Feb 2008, 03:06

Can't pronounce myself yet because... I still need to get MY copy if you can believe it! And it's not the only DVD I have pending or lost in transfer right now so I could kill someone because that has never happened this bad in all those years of online ordering :evil:

I too suspect Stevens for not having been the best asset artistically (Sony knew by hiring him that he could get a good bargain). And this means Dolph might have to say no or be more demanding sometimes: Sony wanted him to do a picture for them and they approved his MM project, so he sure was glad he had the financing out of the way, it might have killed his ambitions for the project to some extent (you can tell by seeing his self-made pitch book with artwork and storyboards).

So now that it's making a killing in rental and sales charts, Dolph will have to be more demanding, in terms of budget (he already should have asked at least the same as Mechanik, not less) and preparation time. Otherwise producers will always try to make money on his name making films the cheapest possible, because why wouldn't they?
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Postby Jox on 13 Feb 2008, 03:08

Dolph has the "starpulse" right now (sorry bad joke, just nor knowing how to announce new interviews anymore :))
http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2008/02/12/dolph_lundgren_discusses_missionary_man_
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