UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Jox on 11 Sep 2012, 19:18

Sebastian Selig The trailer also suggest a different movie. I don't know if it's such a wise move to downplay all the intelligence in this movie and selling it like just another big bang action movie. Audience reactions here at the Fantasy Filmfest in germany where it totaly rocked away anybody would suggest otherwise. Nearly nobody seemed to expected that kind of big movie it obvious is. It totaly seemed to shell-shocked everybody with it's big ideas, it's brilliant direction, It's equally tender as nihilistic world view. This is a so much bigger beast of a movie anyone not have seen it seems to think. Let's also start selling it that way.

Jochen Werner You are completely right, Sebastian - UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING is not only a masterpiece, it is indeed so much different than anything we've seen in DTV action. Ever. It's complex, dark, dreamy, violent - and, in its consequently fragmented structure, influenced as much by art cinema as by genre filmmaking. I am very thankful I had the chance to see it on Berlin's IMAX screen, and really: this should play on the big screens everywhere. This movie is so much bigger than the video store shelves.
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Jox on 11 Sep 2012, 23:03

Here's a more accurate plot but it contains possible spoilers though
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=94619

New trailer coming this wednesday on iTunes.
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby dolphage on 12 Sep 2012, 13:09

It sounds incredible! Is it really that good a movie?
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Jox on 12 Sep 2012, 14:48

From what I know it does have the ideas and potential to be that great, at least awesome and surprising for that kind of sequel. I hope I'm not getting people too excited so they won't be disappointed when they get to see it.
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Jox on 13 Sep 2012, 12:10

Spoiler free review:
http://www.chud.com/community/t/86300/t ... st_3386848
Gentlemen, I just saw an early screening of UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING. I'll try to pick some notes without spoiling:

- it's completely different to the previous one in colors, pacing, structure, ambition and violence
- colors meaning: while 3 had washed-out grey and blue, this has bright colors: orange, white, green, red
- pacing meaning: while there are action scenes of course, some parts become the Terence Malick of b action movies (thing long, thoughtful shots and moments of silence) at times it also seems to imitate Drive in cinematography and music choices
- structure meaning: 3 was a fairly straight affair; 4 mixes things a little up and has some neat surprises; beware some of it is rather confusing and you are left with open questions
- ambition meaning: I gotta say this has the most interesting story of the franchise, the best character story; it's also successfully dancing between being a dark psycho thriller, an overly violent character study and a straight b action movie that's supposed to be fun
- violence? while 3 had decent bloody moments, 4 is all-out bloody and holds nothing back. It's gotta be the most violent theatrically released action movie since Warzone, The Raid and Rambo (haven't seen Dredd yet). YOU WILL LOVE IT

- there's one fight sequence that will stand out with the best of the year; during my screening people not only cheered through that scene, they stood up to do so
- the early weight rumors were not exactly true: Adkin does star, Lundgren and Van Damme are featured for around 20-30 minutes each. Lundgren has a bunch of longer scenes, while Van Damme can be seen multiple times throughout the story, barely speaks and has only 2 or 3 longer scenes
- there's a surprising amount of nudity, even full frontal male nudity
- Lundgren feels like in EXP2: he's obviously enjoying every moment and delivers most of his lines and fights grinning, great fun
- Van Damme meanwhile keeps it dead serious, you haven't seen him like that, both get well made fight scenes (but this time not with each other)
- instead Pitbull Andrei Arlovski gets more scenes (nearly only fight scenes) and I gotta admit he's really good
- what you might have heard about a POV camera: only in the opening scene and there's no fighting going on

bad elements:

- it's so much fun seeing Adkins kill, maim and fight his way through enemy soldiers, but in every non-action scene (of which there are many) he's not able to captivate
- due to that some of the quieter moments appear to drag
- there are some odd directing choices that might put some of you off; especially the use of a bright white flickering for vision (if you're epileptic avoid at all cost)
- for some reason the projector wasn't able to play the 3d version so we got the 2d version instead, can't say anything about the 3d quality. At least there's only one openly obvious 3D FX shot (axe in a door, you'll see)

A UniSol 5 ? At the end of this story, everything could happen. It could continue with the surviving characters, or every dead character could be resurrected, cloned or not be real at all, can change sides or be left out. It's not getting close to Expendables 2 and The Raid, but it's an interesting unusual entry for Adkins, Lundgren and Van Damme, and a duty for everyone who frequents this thread. Really enjoyed this.
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Mosquito on 13 Sep 2012, 22:53

Hello! Guess who saw the movie ON THE BIG SCREEN yesterday? Yes - yours truly!

And I loved it! Shared a "love seat" with my hubby. A true romance night out!

So what can I say. Loved the movie. Hubby loved it, too! He said that it's easily the best of the four movies because it has a very interesting story. Yes, you read right. The end is almost philosophical, Philip K. Dick-like. Nope, this is no irony.

So, here's my executive summary of what I think of the movie or the facts I noticed:

- The posters with JC and Dolph are just wrong because Scott Adkins has 90% of screen time and the marketing guys betray him because it's HIS movie. Dolph and JC are just small add-ons. And Scott does a fantastic job, IMHO.

- Hubby said that it's a shame that they market this as a UniSol movie because it's a totally different thing than the other three. It has a real story, a good one, and people who saw the first UniSol and didn't like it would never watch this one because of the marketing. And he said it's a shame that it's DTV. I totally agree. I mean, I love the first one but this here REALLY has a story to tell.

- Especially during the first hour the violence level is unrealistically high, but the portrayal of violence itself is still very realistic, if you know what I mean. I love over-the-top violence but this was too realistic, too harsh for me. No comic relief. Men, women, children killed. No one-liners. *gulp*

- Only after one hour there's a change when the first real "super power" fight between Scott and Andrei Arlovski takes place in a shop for sporting equipment (BASEBALL BATS AHEAD!). This is over-the-top violence, it looked great, it was fun and I tought "Finally I can enjoy the violence".

- The final fight betwen Dolph and Scott - great! Firearms, blades, hand-to-hand. YAY! And Dolph has THE BEST line of the whole movie. *The* one-liner. Wait for it. ;)

- The final fight between JC and Scott - sucks. JC's a zombie act and you can spot the double in every move. Seems that JC is either very lazy or can't raise a leg or and arm anymore. Sad.

- Scott has a few very cool moves during his final fight sequence. Not comparable to the mayhem in Undisputed 2 + 3 but still... you can cherish the few things you see. Looooved when he closed his legs around one opponent's neck, hanging down, swinging around, bringing the guy to the ground. Icing on the cake.

- Ok, this may be a weird comment but I liked the fact that in a pole dancing club scene and a whore house scene all the women except for one clearly had natural breasts. Some quite small, one quite big, only one looking like silicone. Nice! Natural women. Kudos to the casting department.

So, watching this I thought "The Shining!!!" in one scene, "Memento!!!" in a few others, "Philip K. Dick!!!" in the end. It has harsh violence, over-the-top action and - if you are willing to see it - an intelligent story behind it that makes you think of how this might evolve and what the implications are. Yes, apart from the fact that Dolph has not that much screen time, it is story-wise easily the best of the four in the franchise. And it has almost nothing to do with UniSol 1 - 3 and the marketing is misleading. But it's great. Watch it!
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Coligion on 14 Sep 2012, 08:59

Nice summary, Mosquito. Sad to hear that the Van Damme fight was lacking. He is most certainly still capable of doing plenty of physical fights himself (see Expendables 2). In Unisol 3, it was Dolph's double that really took me out of the Scott/Luc fight. Either way, the stunt doubling in these DTV movies really irks me these days, but I guess it's just a product of the financial and time constraints for these productions. :x
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Dida on 14 Sep 2012, 11:18

Thanks Mosquito!
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby gearsofwar3 on 15 Sep 2012, 04:48

I though hyams would have done a better job hiding the stunt doubles, but this is going to ruin the fights for me, it's what most people are looking for,the 1 vs 1 fight scenes and it's full of visible stunt doubles :cry: i hope your wrong mosquito
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Re: UNIVERSAL SOLDIER: DAY OF RECKONING (John Hyams, 2012)

Postby Jox on 15 Sep 2012, 12:17

To be released December 18 (rental) in Germany on DVD/Blu-ray (retail January 24, 2013)

German official website with lots of stills:
http://universalsoldier.pmhe.de/

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