ROCKY IV (Sylvester Stallone, 1985)

[alex.sp89]

Yea, I was wondering if the song Sweetest VIctory is present in the new cut . It was present in end credits and OST Album and nowhere in the film. Funny thing is that Peter Cetera (ex Chicago vocalist) originally recorded his song The Glory of Love for Rocky 4 but was rejected and use as a theme song in Karate Kid 2. Both songs are great in my opinion which give this good taste of the '80s . What is your opinion admin ?

[Dolph_Fan]

Never seen 20"x30" promotional poster from the UK featuring Drago
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTKpEAGMIvI/

Higher Quality version (restored):

Rocky IV - Poster - UK - Rare

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[Dolph_Fan]

Here are some screenshots of the "35mm film to 2K HD" transfer

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Example of possible achievable results after a restoration (restored):

Rocky IV - Trailer (Drago) - 2K Scan: Restoration - #1

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Rocky IV - Trailer (Drago) - 2K Scan: Restoration - #2

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[Dolph_Fan]

Rare make-up test picture from hair stylist Alan Scott (who went on to do Dolph's hair until at least DARK ANGEL)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSTKQUcLEIi/

What is the origin of this photo ? magazine scan, slide [...] ?
I try to improve it with a software (removing spots and other things), but the quality of the photo is really poor

Higher Quality version (restored):

Rocky IV - Rare Make-Up Test Photo - Restoration

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[Jox]

There is a new rumor that the new director's cut is 125 minutes but nobody seems to be able to provide a source so I'll believe it when I see it...

Rocky IV: Rocky vs Drago -- Opens Thursday, November 11
Showtimes for Thursday, November 11 -- 8:00p
https://www.cwtheaters.com/lincoln/movie?t=ROCKY_4_LIVE

Live intro and Q&A with Sylvester Stallone and other cast members from the Kimmel Center in Philadelphia. Fathom standard ticketing applies.

[alex.sp89]

I think this is too long 125 minutes. as we know there are not that many deleted scenes in it mainly just extended sequences. 1-2 years ago DC was listed on imdb as 107 minutes long. Taking in consideration that they deleted robot scenes from new cut, it could be even shorter. Ideal runtime can be around 110 minutes. I always felt that Drago -Creed fight came too early into the movie. Personally I expected some training scenes of Creed and Rocky together before faithful fight where Apollo dies. In every movie was respected this tradition. Here this kind of stuff was absent some reason. Also if it is going to be just extra dialogue it is going to be very boring- I don't want it to be like Rambo 4 Extended cut, in my opinion that extra scenes with Sarah trying to convince John 3 times to go with them down the river is way too much - it slows passing very much.

What is your opinion regarding this Director's Cut Jox ? Any big expectations or improvement ?


Please Sly don't make it like Escape Plan sequels, boring as hell just dialogue and nothing else.
Stallone during '80s always had good pacing in his movies 3 mins of dialogue fallowed by an action seq. , again dialogue 3 minutes, again action. That was his trademark. Now he went to drama making audience to cry, feelings. Fans don't accept that, they want action. Or budget is so small that he can't do many action anymore with this money. Everyone know that Millenium aka old Canon were always very cheap. Promotion info in articles that they spend 20 millions on a movie when the real cost was 1-3 millions.

[JuV]

There is a new rumor that the new director's cut is 125 minutes but nobody seems to be able to provide a source so I'll believe it when I see it...

Rocky IV: Rocky vs Drago -- Opens Thursday, November 11
Showtimes for Thursday, November 11 -- 8:00p
https://www.cwtheaters.com/lincoln/movie?t=ROCKY_4_LIVE

Live intro and Q&A with Sylvester Stallone and other cast members from the Kimmel Center in Philadelphia. Fathom standard ticketing applies.

125 minutes might be a bit long but i can definitely see it to be through tbh. Makes sense that it's a bit longer and numerous theater website list the same runtime. Kinda amusing how many alternate titles the director's cut has.

[alex.sp89]

Regarding ROCKY 4 DC runtime maybe is that long because end titles are going to run for 11-15 minutes . like all this blockbusters today. 3-6 mins titles old days was the most. Nowaday titles could run 15 percent from the entire movie. What a shame, or they try to fulfill the running time

[JuV]

Regarding ROCKY 4 DC runtime maybe is that long because end titles are going to run for 11-15 minutes . like all this blockbusters today. 3-6 mins titles old days was the most. Nowaday titles could run 15 percent from the entire movie. What a shame, or they try to fulfill the running time

So you don't really like modern movies? Credits were often long 'back in the day' as well, because well... it lists all the credits.

[Jox]

Revised shooting script and script notes at the upcoming Stallone memorabilia auction
https://ibb.co/album/Nty8Rq
https://www.juliensauctions.com/ShopCatalog?id=185

[Jox]

For those who haven't seen the French documentary ROCKY IV: THE AMERICAN PUNCH (2014), it is available here in its English version (52 minutes):
https://www.docubay.com/rocky-iv-the-am ... punch-2649




Trailer:

[Jox]

Sylvester Stallone’s ‘Rocky IV: Rocky Vs. Drago’ Ultimate Director’s Cut Hitting Theaters & Digital
https://deadline.com/2021/09/sylvester- ... 234847353/

Sylvester Stallone has made an ultimate director’s cut of Rocky IV, entitled Rocky vs. Drago which will hit theaters on Nov. 11 for an exclusive engagement via MGM and Fathom followed by the feature being available on digital demand on Nov. 12.

Stallone has added 40 minutes of never-before-seen footage to the 1985 feature made during the U.S. Cold War with the Soviet Union, the movie having the Italian Stallion traveling to the USSR to defend his title again against Ivan Drago (Dolph Lundgren). Stallone wrote, directed and starred in the film which grossed over $300M WW back in the day.

Stallone will broadcast live a Q&A in select Fathom locations nationwide along with a behind-the-scenes look at the making of the recut film. Tickets are on sale today and a complete list of theater locations are available on the Fathom Events website.

Trailer:



EDIT:
Full press release: https://screen-connections.com/2021/09/ ... e-details/

Tickets available here: https://www.fathomevents.com/events/Roc ... -Vs.-Drago

[Jox]

Do you have reactions to the DC trailer?

[JuV]

Think it looks good and the picture quality seems better than the Blu-ray release as well! But I'm not a fan of some of the trailers editing with loud music keys but I'm not really surprised Stallone decided to use it.

[Jox]

and the picture quality seems better than the Blu-ray release as well!

If they made it from newly scanned-in-4K footage that makes sense.
What you can also tell is that the color grading is a bit different, darker than the previous DVD and Blu-ray editions it seems.