BLACK WATER (Allan Ungar; Pasha Patriki, 2018)

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 20 Jun 2018, 20:04

The soundtrack with Spencer Creaghan's score will be released digitally by Milan Records on June 29 (same as US theatrical) 8)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DK2LK4C/
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black ... 1396677915

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Track Listing
1. Black Water Main Titles & Scott's Theme 1:44
2. Home Invasion 5:08
3. Cassie's Theme 1:18
4. Rhodes Interrogates Scott 4:35
5. Interrogation Room Fight 3:38
6. Infiltrating the Control Room 5:09
7. Opening the Flood Gates 7:24
8. The Truth About Rhodes 2:18
9. Meeting Marco 4:11
10. Hallway Fight 2:10
11. Three Down, Two to Go 2:29
12. Climactic Captain's Quarters Confrontation 12:39
13. That Spy Life 3:49
Total Album Time: 56:32

The score was pretty good in my opinion, the action cues may have been the weakest though but the atmospherical themes were nicely moody and melancholic...
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby thegoon4eto on 22 Jun 2018, 18:53

No big deal, but it got nominated for Best Foreign TV Spot (for a Feature Film) at Golden Trailer Awards

http://www.goldentrailer.com/gta19-nomi ... gta192018/

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 26 Jun 2018, 10:10

Jox wrote:As expected and seen in the trailer, submarine shots (used several times) come from Tony Scott's CRIMSON TIDE and were already used in AGENT RED 18 years ago, as was the Pentagon aerial shot. Other submarine shots seem to CGI.

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 27 Jun 2018, 19:53

Village Voice (NYC) review

How Do You Fuck Up a Movie With Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren on a Nuclear Submarine?
https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/06/27 ... submarine/

(BW opens in NYC at the Village East Cinema)

EDIT: The style and quality of review writing has really gone down since the advent of the web 2.0...
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 28 Jun 2018, 18:25

In LA, it will play at AMC Universal Citywalk Stadium.


Blu-ray.com review
http://www.blu-ray.com/Black-Water/676143/#Review
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 02 Jul 2018, 12:12

Jox wrote:Part 1 of director Pasha Patriki's Q&A for German distributor Koch Media
https://www.facebook.com/KochFilms/vide ... 092685319/

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Part 1


Part 2


Part 3
https://www.facebook.com/KochFilms/vide ... 059855322/

Part 4
https://www.facebook.com/KochFilms/vide ... 019851526/
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby bomaz on 02 Jul 2018, 12:20

I saw JCVD on a couple of french talk shows (for the release of The Bouncer) and he seems tired and more aged than before. Seems like he has taken a toll over the last two year or so.
But I'm looking forward to watch this Black Water, at least people are unanimous about Dolph performance (for as brief as it is).
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 02 Jul 2018, 18:40

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/black-water-2018
Belgian action star Jean-Claude Van Damme returns in "Black Water," a mediocre submarine thriller that only really comes to life when co-star Dolph Lundgren gets to one-up the Muscles from Brussels. Van Damme and Lundgren have worked together five times now since 1992, when the two '80s icons traded blows and bullets in the first "Universal Soldier" film. Not much has changed in 26 years since Lundgren, playing a berserk cyborg antagonist, stole that earlier film, too.

Lundgren stands out in both films because he doesn't have to carry either project. He grins like a cat who figured out how to get a lifetime supply of canaries while Van Damme grimaces as he struggles to carry a blase, paint-by-numbers siege narrative about (deep breath) a rogue CIA agent who must fight both the CIA and evil mercenaries for the security of digital files that contain the names and personal info of the CIA's active undercover agents. Unfortunately, Van Damme barrels his way through another uninspired programmer, leaving Lundgren with the impossible task of breathing life into an already burst balloon.

Lundgren plays Marco, a mysterious German spy that Wheeler bumps into after he wakes up in a blacksite prison...on a submarine. Marco is cool and resigned to his fate while Wheeler is groggy and pissed-off. Marco also never directly answers Wheeler's questions, but rather sighs about the seeming hopelessness of their shared predicament. So it's up to Van Damme to set up the plot through an extended flashback: he was attacked by a group of bad dudes who cornered him and his partner Melissa (Courtney B. Turk) at a seedy motel. Soon after that, Wheeler was captured by the CIA—led by Agent Patrick Ferris (Patrick Kilpatrick)—in an industrial car park. The baddies from the hotel are supposed to be really bad dudes because they shoot Melissa twice (and in slow-motion) while Van Damme protests with an unintentionally hilarious groan. Soon after this inciting incident, Wheeler defies Ferris's group, who threaten Wheeler with torture—including eyeball-related trauma—if he doesn't tell them where they can find the files he's hiding. There's some confusion about Wheeler's real allegiances—did he go rogue, or is he actually still loyal to his country—but that question is cleared up sooner rather than later since screenwriter Chad Law doesn't seem to care about this tired, but heavily foregrounded complication.

Law's scenario often focuses on keeping track of the various factions housed in the never-named blacksite submarine prison. There's Wheeler and aspiring/good CIA agent Cassie (Jasmine Waltz), who form a team, and struggle to escape together. And there's the suspicious security crew led by Kingsley (Aleksander Vayshelboym), and the rogue agent whose identity I won't spoil (though really, it's not that hard to guess). There's Ferris and his guys. And don't forget generic good guy Captain Dorsey (John Posey) and his hapless crew, all of whom just seem to want to keep their sub from blowing up. Oh, and Marco's there, too.

It's weirdly fitting that Lundgren, the most physically imposing actor in "Black Water," can't be found for much of the film's drawn-out 105-minute runtime. You might says he's the proverbial elephant in the underwater submersible, but he's not really since Marco gets to outsmart and out-maneuver several villains. Lundgren does a fine job with the sliver of a role that he's got, though that's not really saying much.

The most significant problem with "Black Water" is that nobody, not even the good CIA agents (some of whom are proven to be bad before the film hits its midway point), talk about their super-secret, under-water CIA prison setting. In this aqua-jail, torture and undocumented interrogations are standard operating procedure. Nobody balks at that galling reality. Instead, "Black Water" concerns the capture and inevitable release of Wheeler, a good guy who is accused of bad things, but that we all trust implicitly because, uh, his lady partner was executed in front of him? This kind of "avenge the dead girl" stock plot doesn't make sense when transplanted to a modern setting, one where US officials can threaten to stab a guy in the eyeball and walk away looking comparatively innocent. If you're going to exploit something as grisly as government-sanctioned torture, then you'd better follow through. The makers of "Black Water" never do.

And what of Van Damme? As Wheeler, he spends much of his time going pew-pew with automatic rifles and/or scowling at instantly forgettable baddies. Forget Lundgren: even the twice-billed star of "Double Impact" deserves better than "Black Water."




EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Writer/Producer Chad Law Talks BLACK WATER with JCVD and Much More!
http://action-flix.com/action-flix-home ... -much-more

What I thought...
Well, this one just sort of came up because the producers at the time said they wanted to do an action movie on a submarine and it was as simple as that really, that part. That was it. "We want to do an action movie set on submarine." Okay, cool.


Did anybody in the US caught how many theatre screens the movie is playing at?
(too bad most sites with showtimes ask you for a specific city/location first)
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby lt.brannigan on 03 Jul 2018, 21:03

Finally! Now I can stop wondering what country to import it from. Thanks for the update.
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Ivan Drago on 04 Jul 2018, 03:37

Jox wrote:Did anybody in the US caught how many theatre screens the movie is playing at?
(too bad most sites with showtimes ask you for a specific city/location first)


There is one screen in the LA area (Universal City) and one in New York City showing Black Water today. I tried searching several other large cities which yielded no results, so I gave up after that.
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 04 Jul 2018, 15:27

Thank you!

I wonder if NY and LA they're the only two cities it's playing at...
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 05 Jul 2018, 08:46

Italian release (front & back cover)

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 07 Jul 2018, 01:00

UK back cover

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Jox wrote:The soundtrack with Spencer Creaghan's score will be released digitally by Milan Records on June 29 (same as US theatrical) 8)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DK2LK4C/
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black ... 1396677915

The album is available on CD 16 bits quality on Qobuz
https://www.qobuz.com/fr-fr/album/black ... 3z9z1obmyc

Very strangely Milan Records seems to have uploaded the complete 13 tracks on YT:
Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcr4JUD ... kSh_a9Bc68

1st track
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