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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 10 Jun 2018, 10:04

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby savagesketch on 11 Jun 2018, 01:45

Watched this the other day, and like Jox stated, it's a misfire. I wanted to like this one, but sadly, it's boring. Which I hate saying considering the Van Damme-Lundgren combo.

THE GOOD:
- Sadly, the only positive with this one is the gimmick of seeing Van Damme and Lundgren on screen together again, this time on the same side.
- Lundgren has a fun character to play, much more so than Van Damme, who while he's not employing the same tired-schtick he's been doing for the past decade, there's not much to his character. VD's a CIA operative, blah, blah, zero character arc there. And for this being a team-up between the two leads, they're unfortunately not on screen together very much leading to...

THE BAD:
- Lundgren has maybe ten minutes of screen time, and that's being generous.
- This is following the exact story beats as 2013's ESCAPE PLAN, which in itself came about 15 years too late. BLACK WATER is no different. A re-teaming of VD and Lundgren shoulda happened about ten years ago.
- Is there anything more tired than the submarine thriller? Especially in 2018? This was tired and boring back in 2000 when Dolph did AGENT RED (which was a remake of another lame submarine thriller, COUNTER MEASURES). This was similar to ALTITUDE in a sense... Hijacked plane thrillers wore out their welcome 20 years ago; ALTITUDE wasn't covering any new territory. BLACK WATER is no different.
- VD gets two female accomplices here, both potential love interests... And disturbingly, they're old enough to be his daughters... I understand that there's this unwritten law in Hollywood that no female over the age of 35 can be a love interest in an action movie. But it's become extremely unsettling and disturbing seeing this in these guy's movies. The older Dolph and VD get, their love interests get younger... :( Huh?
-Fight scenes are pretty lacking. I understand that VD doesn't always want to do martial arts, but there's only so much senseless gunfire that one can handle before it gets old.
- As Jox pointed out, stock footage is prevalent here, but it plays better and feels more organic than in AGENT RED. But there's also the same CGI shot of the submarine that comes in every 15 minutes to remind viewers that this takes place on a sub.
- There's a twist at the end (don't worry, not going to give it away :wink: ), but Dolph's last scene in the film I felt was pretty mean-spirited and a little out of character...

Worth a rental and a watch, especially for fans of these two guys. But for someone who was dying to see these guys re-team and on the same side no less, it's disappointing to see it in the form of a rote submarine thriller.
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby thegoon4eto on 11 Jun 2018, 10:35

Black Water opens #5 at the China boxoffice with 6.26M

https://variety.com/2018/film/asia/chin ... 202839813/
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby bomaz on 11 Jun 2018, 11:44

Wow, that's impressive :o
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby shooby on 11 Jun 2018, 11:56

savagesketch wrote:[...]
-This is following the exact story beats as 2013's ESCAPE PLAN, which in itself came about 15 years too late. BLACK WATER is no different. A re-teaming of VD and Lundgren shoulda happened about ten years ago.
- Is there anything more tired than the submarine thriller? Especially in 2018? This was tired and boring back in 2000 when Dolph did AGENT RED (which was a remake of another lame submarine thriller, COUNTER MEASURES). This was similar to ALTITUDE in a sense... Hijacked plane thrillers wore out their welcome 20 years ago; ALTITUDE wasn't covering any new territory. BLACK WATER is no different.
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- As Jox pointed out, stock footage is prevalent here, but it plays better and feels more organic than in AGENT RED. But there's also the same CGI shot of the submarine that comes in every 15 minutes to remind viewers that this takes place on a sub.


In the Season 8 - Episod 25 of Hawai 5.0 (Waiho Wale Kahiko) too, there is russian submarine, and the CGI are awfull too ! Obviously, submarines are falling out of fashion in fictions todays
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 11 Jun 2018, 13:25

savagesketch wrote:This was similar to ALTITUDE in a sense... Hijacked plane thrillers wore out their welcome 20 years ago; ALTITUDE wasn't covering any new territory. BLACK WATER is no different.

Thankfully I'd say BLACK WATER stands way above ALTITUDE, even though it's set in similar territory.

bomaz wrote:Wow, that's impressive :o

Yes, and yet LEGENDARY had grossed the same when it opened in China.



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Before the French DVD/BR release on July 3, the movie will be available on VOD starting June 14 (MyTF1vod) and June 18 (all VOD providers)

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby thegoon4eto on 12 Jun 2018, 10:17

It made another half a million on Monday in China for a total of ¥43.8M, which equals around 6.8M in USD
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 14 Jun 2018, 20:13

Now available on "Direct TV"
https://www.einpresswire.com/article/45 ... -direct-tv


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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 16 Jun 2018, 14:38

Jox wrote:Before the French DVD/BR release on July 3, the movie will be available on VOD starting June 14 (MyTF1vod) and June 18 (all VOD providers)

https://mytf1vod.tf1.fr/films/black-water-45823

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 17 Jun 2018, 15:23

Jox wrote:Canadian artwork (VOD release on July 3)

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Canadian Blu-ray/DVD on August 28
https://www.amazon.ca/Black-Menace-Blu- ... 07DGSSFMW/

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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby lt.brannigan on 17 Jun 2018, 19:32

That's certainly a bit closer to home. I will probably end up getting that one if the USA doesn't get a Blu-Ray of this on either.
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby thegoon4eto on 18 Jun 2018, 00:04

So, sounds like this compared to Escape Plan 2: Hades, Black Water is the better movie of the two.
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby thegoon4eto on 18 Jun 2018, 15:40

China box office: 'Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom' opens with massive $121.7m

https://www.screendaily.com/news/china- ... ferrer=RSS

[/div][div]It was followed by Indian comedy drama Toilet – Ek Prem Katha on $5.2m for $14.9m after 10 days; Disney’s mega-blockbuster Avengers: Infinity War on $4.6m for $395.4m after 38 days; local comedy Happiness Is Coming on $4.4m for $12m after 10 days; German animation The Seventh Dwarf on $2m from its first two days; Jean-Claude Van Damme’s action thriller Black Water on $1.7m for $8.5m after 10 days; and Japanese animation Doraemon The Movie: Nobita’s Treasure Island on $1.4m for $34.1m after 17 days.
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Re: BLACK WATER (Pasha Patriki, 2018)

Postby Jox on 18 Jun 2018, 16:47

I don't know how much it really cost but that's three or four times the entire budget right there.
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