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Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 02 Apr 2018, 23:41
by Jox
Thanks, cool show!

I have to bring a few nuances though:

- Dolph's involvement in promoting pentathlon and being the 1996 Olympics team leader came 2-3 years after the production on the request of the US team (who had trained him for the film) because the event was threatened to be canceled from the games after Atlanta.

- The shooting script was not a last minute decision before camera rolled, it was locked before pre-pproduction officially began. And I think it was Lundgren who might have been pushing for this draft because he wanted to make it more of a sport-drama thriller medleying a ROCKY type feel with a movie like MARATHON MAN.
The writer of the shooting draft is named James Wilson, who was apparently credited in his team on MOTU, so Dolph probably brought him on, whereas previous writers where friends from producer Martin Caan...

(I now see it could even almost be seen as a pseudo DRAGO spin-off with a different character and sport)

- Part of the budget restraints came fro the lack of interest or gross made from the distributors pre-sales

- As for the romance with Julia (Renée Coleman), in the years from JOSHUA TREE / ARMY OF ONE to THE SHOOTER or even SILENT TRIGGER, Dolph was very keen on making more romantic films, having more than just sex or flings relationships, I mean basically in the pre- and post-JOHNNY MNEMONIC years, he was aiming at branching out to more serious, auteurs or art-house films. This was also the years he was doing small plays in New York and had the project to set up a play or film adaptation of the classic 19th Swedish play MISS JULIE (by writer August Strindberg).

- The shooting script ends just like the finished movie, no omitted scenes following the killing of Müeller and Dolph seen as being relieved.

Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 30 Jul 2018, 19:14
by Jox
PENTATHLON commenced filming 25 years ago...

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(with steadicam operator Jerry Hill)

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Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 05 Aug 2018, 10:52
by Jox
French dubbed trailer


Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2018, 00:20
by Jox
The trailer as featured on the UK rental VHS of Robert Patrick's starrer ZERO TOLERANCE (Joseph Merhi, PM Entertainment)


Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 25 Jan 2019, 19:11
by Gunner
Jox wrote:The shooting script was not a last minute decision before camera rolled, it was locked before pre-pproduction officially began. And I think it was Lundgren who might have been pushing for this draft because he wanted to make it more of a sport-drama thriller medleying a ROCKY type feel with a movie like MARATHON MAN.
The writer of the shooting draft is named James Wilson, who was apparently credited in his team on MOTU, so Dolph probably brought him on, whereas previous writers where friends from producer Martin Caan...


So that's why they didn't went with those earlier scripts. Good to know, i thought that it was just the budget that made them change the final script. That being said, personally i would rather prefer if they made the film to be more like the earlier versions of the script. I tried to give Pentathlon another chance, but it just didn't work for me. Only thing i didn't mind that much was Dolph's performance. I never cared for the film in the first place, and when i first read that synopsis of the original script, it really just made me think of the final film as big missed opportunity. And i'm not saying that the version they went with wouldn't work at all, but i think that it just needed a better script and director to make it work.

Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 15 Mar 2019, 11:41
by Jox
Italian VHS

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Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 02 Jun 2019, 17:13
by Jox
Lionsgate has put out PENTATHLON on Amazon Prime (US), not HD it seems though.
https://www.amazon.com/Pentathlon-John- ... 07R2FJX4D/

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Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 02 Jun 2019, 22:05
by lt.brannigan
Didn't realize Lionsgate had the rights. Wonder if they will put out a DVD or Blu-Ray... as far as I can recollect it's never been available here on either format. Have the German Blu-Ray, which I am happy with, but would love to have a decent a domestic release.

Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 04 Jun 2019, 21:25
by Jox
PENTATHLON was co-financed by Live Entertainment so it's not a surprise Lionsgate still has it.

I don't know if they will bother for a physical release though, especially of this title. They don't seem too concerned about releasing catalog blu-rays unless it's past blockbusters.

Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 05 Jun 2019, 01:10
by lt.brannigan
Pentathlon doesn't particularly seem like a movie they would release on Blu-Ray, but maybe they will do a multi feature or something of Dolph movies and debut a few that way. They released Hercules in New York that way.

Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 05 Jun 2019, 12:39
by Jox
They just release those as a bundle

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Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 05 Jun 2019, 13:08
by lt.brannigan
Bought that set. Great steal for only $10, only downside is they squeeze 3 movies per disc.

Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2019, 16:07
by Jox
Trade ad

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Re: PENTATHLON (Bruce Malmuth, 1994)

PostPosted: 02 Sep 2019, 09:33
by Jox
Australian theatrical poster

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#helmutkrauss - Re:

PostPosted: 05 Sep 2019, 19:10
by Stimmenkartei
Mosquito wrote:
dolphage wrote:Because in german, to me, it sounds like a similar voice doing DL´s voice over and over.


I have watched only a few movies in German but I've been told that most of his movies are dubbed by Manfred Lehmann, also an actor. He's famous as "Germany's action voice". He always dubs Bruce Willis, Kurt Russel, Gérard Dépardieu, Christophe Lambert, James Woods. And every tough guy who appears on screen, it seems. :-) He's got a really cool voice but I think he appears too often. He's doing frequent radio ads for a big hardware store which is really annoying.

I think his voice is good for Dolph but only if you don't know Dolph's real voice. Dolph's voice can be so much gentler than Manfred Lehmann's. Here's a sample:
http://www.stimmgerecht.de/schau/lehman.php

The only other famous action movie voice that equals Lehmann's, well, fame and quantity is Thomas Danneberg. He dubs the other half of the big action stars. ;-) Stallone, Arnie, Travolta, Nick Nolte... here's his description and sample:
http://www.stimmgerecht.de/schau/dantho.php

The worst Dolph-voice was used for Red Scorpion, Army of One and Rocky IV. I just found out that it was Helmut Krauss, who is the frequent voice of Marlon Brando or Sam Jackson. Far too old and to rough for Dolph (in this sample it is not as rough as in Red Scorpion):

http://www.helmutkrauss.de/hoerbeispiele/osna-cops-intro.mp3


We miss Helmut Krauss infinitely. On August 26, 2019 Helmut died at the age of 78 years. A very wonderful special person, so nice, such a good heart. What would have been "The Godfather" Marlon Brando in the German-speaking world without the legendary voice of Helmut Krauss:
https://www.stimmenkartei.de/blog/helmu ... on-brando/. Thank you dear Helmut for all the beautiful moments you have given us, your place is always in our hearts.