ROCKY IV (Sylvester Stallone, 1985)

[Krom]

Happy birthday, awesome good old days! 1985, what an year for the movies!

[Jox]

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/27/ro ... didnt-know

[Jox]

Carl Weathers Looks Back on Creed: Sparring With Ali, Slighting Stallone and Passing the Torch
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/c ... eed-845151

[Jox]

Stallone is auctioning many of his movie items, scripts, viewfinder, costumes etc.
http://entertainment.ha.com/c/auction-h ... aleNo=7111
http://www.ha.com/information/stallone- ... 111-112015


ROCKY IV items:
http://entertainment.ha.com/c/search-re ... rch-071515

Here is the Drago costume with a video of Sly talking about it:
http://entertainment.ha.com/itm/enterta ... ion-071515

Drago outfit sold for $45,000.


(Apollo's for 43,000, Rocky trunks for 51,000)

[shooby]

149.000 dollars for Rocky's leather jacket
57.500 dollars for sly's pairs of Boxing shorts of Rocky 4
45.000 dollars for Drago's wrapper

Others item here (it's in french) : http://www.lavenir.net/cnt/dmf20151223_00755133

[Jox]

Same old same old:



Rare promo or costume fitting shots:

[shooby]

Same old same old:

Just iewing it with the french site allocine

[Jox]

Allociné, c'est un peu bas de plafond et pas très fiable, comme site et comme base de données (à part pour les ragots et des infos erronées ou sur-interprétées) comme site, la preuve avec le pompage de cette fausse news dont on se demande déjà pourquoi elle fait le buzz cette semaine plus particulièrement, alors que Sly raconte la même histoire à chaque sortie depuis les EXPENDABLES...

(une histoire qui n'a jamais été un secret puisqu'elle a fait la une pendant la tournage, et a probablement contribué à sortir Dolph de l'anonymat alors que ROCKY IV n'est pas encore sorti, et devient donc aux yeux de la presse et du public l'incarnation même de Drago, celui qui a battu Stallone sur un ring)

[shooby]

c'est clair qu'allocine c'est pas tip top, la preuve avec toutes les erreurs relevées ici :

http://www.allocine.fr/article/ficheart ... 48960.html

Mais j'aimes bien y aller pour retrouver quelques e-connaissances aussi donc ...

[Jox]

ROCKY, QUATRO!




EDIT:
fan made

[Jox]

The AT40 Blog/February 8, 1986: Stallone's persuasive ways with the Godfather of Soul

Jim Peterik, one of the leaders of the band Survivor, which put out not one, but two theme songs from Rocky moves in the 1980s, said the movie's longtime star, Sylvester Stallone, had a way of reinventing himself for not only the roles he starred in, but getting musical acts to buy into his way of thinking to do songs for the movies he starred in or directed.

But maybe Stallone's biggest challenge was to convince the greatest soul music star of all-time to take a shot at something he wasn't all that comfortable with doing: Recording someone else's songs.

For the better part of his superstar career, James Brown wrote and mostly produced his own songs. And those songs with such a vibe to them -- from the wicked bass payed behind them to the roar of the might horns played by the backing band, the JBs -- were classics, such as "Papa's Got A Brand New Bag," "I Got You (I Feel Good)," "Cold Sweat" and "I Got The Feelin'." Brown was his own man, so Stallone had to convince the Godfather of Soul that he had a song that he was wanting him to do for a movie Stallone starred in and that he fit the bill to do it.

No one was really sure in the end how Stallone got Brown to record "Living In America," but he did. And in the end, that song became the second-biggest chart hit in Brown's amazing career.

Brown built an amazing career off being "the hardest-working man in show business" in the 1960s and 1970s, racking up 16 No. 1 hits between 1965-74 and putting on a stage show that became the envy of others with the capper of the shows being an exhausted Brown having to be wrapped up in his cape and helped off stage, only to get another burst of energy to continue performing. Fans ate it up and Brown was untouchable.

The songs that became classics were his and his alone. But after 1974, the hits dried up. His last Top 40 pop hit was "Papa Don't Take No Mess--Part 1," which peaked at No. 31. His last Top 10 R&B hit was "Get Up Offa That Thing," which got to No. 4 in 1976. Though he continued to be a top-notch performer and brought the house down wherever he played, he simply couldn't buy a hit and as he went from his 40s to his 50s, the shots at stardom were going to dry up even more.

Stallone, though, was convinced that he had a hit with "Living In America." It was just persuading Brown that he could be back in the spotlight using someone else's song. In this case, the song was co-written by Charlie Midnight and Dan Hartman. Hartman had hit the scene in 1978 with his disco anthem Top 40 debut "Instant Replay" and then came back in 1984 with a No. 6 hit "I Can Dream About You" from the movie Streets Of Fire. Hartman was also a lead vocalist in the 1970s in the Edgar Winter Group, singing the band's Top 15 pop hit, "Free Ride," in 1973.

Midnight, meanwhile, was a producer-songwriter who had worked with Chaka Khan and Sheena Easton and had hooked up with Hartman in 1984 to help Hartman on his "I Can Dream About You" album, including his first Top 40 songwriting credit "We Are The Young," Hartman's follow-up to "I Can Dream About You."

In 1985, they submitted a song with a patriotic feel to it to Stallone for his new Rocky movie and there was no question in Stallone's mind who he wanted to be the vocalist on the song. While older African-American fans knew who Brown was, younger fans, especially white audiences, had no clue about Brown and what his music represented. And by having Brown record the song, he could tap into that audience.

With Stallone's persuasiveness, he was able to get Brown on the phone and get him to come out to Los Angeles and record "Living In America." He also told Brown that he was to have a cameo in the movie and that may have also sweetened the pot for Brown to put "Living In America" down with producer Terry Jackson at the controls. Jackson, Midnight and Hartman were three people that Brown was working with for the first time ... along with Stallone.

Filming began on Rocky IV and when the time came, Brown was ready to do his part of the movie. In that part, he sings "Living In America" as Apollo Creed (played by Carl Weathers) comes out of "retirement" to have an exhibition match with an up-and-coming star in the heavyweight division from the Soviet Union, Ivan Drago, played by Dolph Lundgren. Creed prances around the boxing square, clad in an American-flag style cape and an American-flag style hat on his head, while moving around Drago shadow-boxing with his gloves.

The scene continues with Creed and Drago listening to directions from the referee and when it comes to touch gloves and the cocky Creed goes to slap Drago, he finds Drago's arms won't bend. Though he has the best of Drago at the beginning of the first round with sharp jabs, a simple whistle from Drago's trainer sets Drago on his way to a flurry of shots to the face that stun and dizzy Creed. The bell sounds and though hurt and battered from the beating, Creed asks Rocky Balboa no matter what happens to not throw the white towel in for surrender. Creed continues to take a beating from Drago and in spite of Creed's older trainer, Duke, insisting that Rocky throw the towel, Balboa won't do it. Finally, Drago delivers one final blow that not only floors Creed, but kills the former heavyweight champion in the ring. Looking up at the 6-foot-5 Drago from his prone position, Rocky hears Drago say, "If he dies ... he dies."

Infuriated at the Soviet boxer and upset at himself because he didn't throw the towel to save his friend and former rival, Balboa takes it on his ownto plan an unsanctioned match with Drago on Drago's home turf in Moscow on Christmas Day, having everyone tell him he's nuts for doing so. He trains furiously in the mountains and snow of the eastern part of the country and on the night of his big bout, he gets pummeled, too, but his iron-clad will won't let him go down for good. He comes back to beat the hell out of Drago and win via knockout in the final round.

The movie, though attaining mixed reviews, was still a smash and pushed three songs into the Top 40: "No Easy Way Out" by one-hit wonder Robert Tepper would peak at No. 22 in the spring of 1986, and the main theme, "Burning Heart" by Peterik's band, Survivor, would climb to No. 2 as the first release from the movie.

"Living In America" was next to be released. It debuted at No. 91 on the Hot 100 the week of December 7, 1985. Though the slow start, the song would rise quickly, going from No. 91 to No. 64 the next week, then to No. 54 and No. 44 before taking the holiday week off.

On the first full countdown of the new year, January 11, 1986, "Living In America" brought Brown his first Top 40 hit in over 11 years when it came into the countdown at No. 36. A modest four-point leap was followed the next week when it jumped nine places to No. 23. A week later on February 1, 1986, "Living In America" vaulted eight more places to No. 15, then on February 8, 1986, it leaped from No. 15 to No. 9.

With that jump into the Top 10, a grateful Brown celebrated a Top 10 pop hit, his first since the anthem, "Say It Loud -- I'm Black And I'm Proud," hit No. 10 in October 1968. And while "Living In America" was landing in the Top 10 for Brown, "Burning Heart" was climbing to No. 2 that week for Survivor, prone to be No. 1, but never landing there, missing out on a second No. 1 hit for the band after "Eye Of The Tiger" from Rocky III in 1982.

From the point Brown got into the Top 10, the song hustled further up the countdown, leaping from No. 9 to No. 7 to No. 5 and then to its peak position of No. 4 the week of March 1, 1986 before beginning its descent down the chart.

Sure, "Living In America" also spoke of a patriotic jingoism that took place in this country and how proud one would be to have a part of what this country is all about, especially in President Ronald Reagan's America at the time. But for the most part, people thought of the hit as "that song that James Brown sang in Rocky IV that brought Apollo Creed back into the ring." In the long version of the song, Brown ad-libs lines, but one that mainly is remembered is when a trombone from the famed Uptown Horns plays and Brown utters, "Eddie Murphy, eat your heart out." Brown never gave an answer on why he called out the acting star, but it may have done with the fact that Murphy perfectly played Brown in a mock scene called "James Brown's Celebrity Hot Tub Party" when he was a star on NBC's Saturday Night Live in which he did a song pertaining to getting into the hot tub in Brown's unintelligible, hard-to-understand vocals, while copying Brown's theatrics in the routine. Maybe the 52-year-old Brown was telling Murphy that his career wasn't finished yet either.

And after the song had gotten to No. 4, a pleased Hartman and Midnight asked Brown if he would like to do an album with them writing and producing. Brown agreed and later in 1986, "Gravity" was released. It featured the Top 40 R&B title cut, but only hit No. 93 on the Hot 100.

Brown would never have another Top 40 pop hit -- "Living In America" was Brown's 44th and last Top 40 hit -- but would continue to perform and record albums and CDs from time to time -- as well as escape from trouble with the law as well. Sadly, on Christmas Day, 2006, Brown passed away from congestive heart failure resulting from complications from pneumonia at the age of 73.

Hartman and Midnight continued to work together until Hartman got sick and passed away on March 22, 1994, from an AIDS-related brain tumor at 43 years old, an illness he kept quiet to those on the outside. Midnight went on without Hartman and would continue to write and produce for other artists and would win a 1990 Grammy Award for Best Album for Children for the motion picture "Oliver & Company."

And the man who brought everyone together, Sylvester Stallone, is still a superstar in Hollywood, earning himself an Oscar nomination in 2015 for Best Supporting Actor for his famous Rocky Balboa character in the seventh movie in the Rocky series, Creed.

Stallone is still working it today, making sure people come together and make great things happen.

The same way he did in 1985 when making the movie Rocky IV. He knew a winning one-two-combination when he saw it, especially in the Godfather of Soul.

http://markybee66.blogspot.com/2016/02/ ... aking.html

[Jox]

Someone pointed out that IMDB now states a 107 mins "director's cut", here's my thoughts about it:

1/ I never heard about it and IMDB contains much crap infos
2/ I'm sure the workprint was that long (and possibly longer) at an early stage but the release version couldn't have been that long anyway. The are a few deleted scenes but not that much. The two (advance and shooting) drafts of the script I own don't contain that much more than what's in the movie.
(And we know how Sly wanted it to be slick/MTV-like editorialy, which wasn't that common yet in those days)

[dude hallenbeck]

My friend and I always joke this movie has a 4 hour workprint that's actually a gritty character film a la the original Rocky, with Rocky introspectively walking through the Russian wilderness, in a Terrence Malick style sombre mood piece.

[Jox]

My friend and I always joke this movie has a 4 hour workprint that's actually a gritty character film a la the original Rocky, with Rocky introspectively walking through the Russian wilderness, in a Terrence Malick style sombre mood piece.

I want to see that ROCKY IV version by Terence Malick! What a pitch right there!

[Jox]

Intrada Records releases a vinyl edition of the complete score:
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.10103/.f?sc=13

World vinyl premiere of original score from mega-hit fourth installment of wildly popular Rocky saga, starring Sylvester Stallone as iconic boxer, with Talia Shire, Burt Young, Carl Weathers - and formidable Russian opponent Dolph Lundgren. Original 1985 album featured songs plus two excerpts from score.

Intrada release offers entire score by Vince DiCola, including his arrangement of classic "Theme from Rocky" by Bill Conti. Unleashed at last is rich score, initially for keyboards, ultimately for large orchestra. Many highlights include haunting piano/cello theme for "Apollo's Death and Funeral", powerful "Up the Mountain" sequence, dynamic "Training Montage", powerhouse "War", epic "Knockout" for full orchestra. Intrada presents score in crisp, punchy stereo mixed directly from original 24-track digital masters courtesy of Sony. Vivid artwork courtesy of MGM, enthusiastic liner notes by Daniel Schweiger. Major gap in Rocky soundtrack series is delivered with this dynamic score release from Intrada!

Vinyl release includes premium 180 gram vinyl album and deluxe UV-coated, full-color gatefold jacket with artwork title on spine, enclosed in thick polywrap bag! Vince DiCola composes, produces. Jeremy Lubbock orchestrates, conducts.

And there's also a rerelease of the original album on 180g vinyl:
http://www.elusivedisc.com/Rocky-IV-Sou ... MOVLPM062/