THE EXPENDABLES (Sylvester Stallone, 2010)

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Re: THE EXPENDABLES (2010)

Postby Jox on 20 Apr 2011, 19:56

Stallone on Howard Stern's, talks Van Damme and bitting his nails waiting for the EXPENDABLES box office numbers, first losing it to EAT, PRAY, LOVE, Arnold doing free promo, Dolph almost killing him and getting into a bif with Carl Weathers etc

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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Jox on 28 Apr 2011, 15:00

Here's the weird news about the director's cut: a couple of people from the Stallone board seem to have just seen it on Cable Charter "on demand" movies (same happened with RAMBO so I heard), it would be 10 mins longer with different edits, songs (Shinedown's Diamond Eyes), more dialogue which makes it more comprehensive etc

http://craigzablo.proboards.com/index.c ... 584&page=1 (SPOILERS)

Here is what 'artofwar' posted:

I am sure someone here knows about this. I haven't seen a thread about this so hope I did not miss something.

I have Charter Cable and was looking through the list of On Demand movies tonight and came accross three versions of The Expendables.

The Expendabels - 103 minutes - $4.99
The Expendables HD 103 minutes - $5.99
The Expendables Extended Cut (Not HD) - 113 minutes - $ 4.9


And after viewing it:

As promised here are my viewing notes of The Expendables Extended Cut. Charter added an HD version when I checked in to order it last night.

There are differences between the theatrical and the extended cut starting at the beggining and through to the end.

I will assume everyone has seen the film so READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.



They did not change the order of events in the film.

Opening Sequence:

No large metallic letters introduicing the film and actors.
While riding the choppers there is a deep voice over by Sly (Barney Ross) something about "smoke in your eyes" maybe it was something from early trailers I don't recall now.

The opening credits are now when they are flying in the plane near the beggining and the letters are smaller and white. This still comes after the choppers and pirate scene.

Music is different duing this sequence.

They show more of the Mercs and some background on the plane.



Dailogue changes and modifications:

More duing the pirate scene.

More between Christmas and his girlfriend at the apartment
She has more lines.

More at Tool's when they are discusssing the mission. Randy (Milt) has an expanded monologue.

More between Barney and Lee while reconning the Island. At customs and when meeting the contact.

More and different when Barney shoots Gunner.

More and different dialogue for Stone Cold and Scott Adkins when they interogate Barney in the Tunnel. Adkins gets more to say and do.


More F words throughout the film.


Scene Changes:

Lee and Barney both enter garage in truck before Gunner threatens Barney.

Water Boarding has been extended.

Knife play when Barney saves the girl when she is tied up is changed.

When Stone Cold interogates Barney in the tunnel.


Music:


During the first plane scene when meeting the Mercs.

Rock music during palace tunnel break out scene. Boom la, Boom la, Boom.

Ending and credits. Boom la is played.

Otherwise music and score remain the same as far as I could tell.


Other:

I know people will want to know if the second fight between Jet Lee and Dolph is changed. I could/did not notice any. Maybe a slow down of a kick but I can't be certain. Nothing that stood out to say that there was a major difference.

The Sly, Arnold, Bruce scene is the same.



These are my observations from one veiwing. If there are any questions I will try to answer them.


Thanks for tuning in.

Cheers


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much has been changed but on a smaller scale. There is MORE banter between the team which wasn't a huge addition but it did make the dialogue more understanding in the long run. The Dolph VS Jet Li fight is minimally better with a few tweaks here and there. Also the dialogue involved in that sequence is better. The incorporation of "I Love Karma" was used as well as the dialogue between Sly and Dolph after he gets shot is much better and drawn out. The opening voice-over was much to my liking as well. I also noticed a small tweek on Tool's monologue at the end (he doesn't break down, he just stares at Barney). The ending shootout uses the "Diamond Eyes" track which was a little different. That is all I noticed from the few glances I gave it. Once I watch it completely this week, I'll try and give a few more updates.

PS. I may be alone on this one, but I liked Dolph's joke.
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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Ivan, Jr. on 02 May 2011, 03:38

I just watched the extended cut of "The Expendables" on the pay per view on Comcast/Xfinity cable system(USA). I would have loved to seen this version on the big screen! Dolph gets about another minute and a half/two minutes of the extra 10 minutes! Most notably in the fight scene between him and Jet Li. I won't say any more to spoil it for those with out cable, but I'm praying they will release the extendended version on Blu-Ray/DVD soon! Any news on that, Jox?
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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Jox on 02 May 2011, 13:04

Ivan, Jr. wrote:I'm praying they will release the extendended version on Blu-Ray/DVD soon! Any news on that, Jox?

Not yet, but I hope it will be sooner than the RAMBO director's cut, which aired on cable first as well and then the DVD release was postponed for a while... Ever since I saw the theatrical cut, I'm sure this extended version is as intended and will the definitive one, far better and flows more smoothly.
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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Jox on 12 May 2011, 11:18

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/0 ... rent-case/
Biggest BitTorrent Downloading Case in U.S. History Targets 23,000 Defendants
By David Kravets May 9, 2011 | 5:15 pm | Categories: The Ridiculous, porn

At least 23,000 file sharers soon will likely get notified they are being sued for downloading the Expendables in what has become the single largest illegal-BitTorrent-downloading case in U.S. history.

A federal judge in the case has agreed to allow the U.S. Copyright Group to subpoena internet service providers to find out the identity of everybody who had illegally downloaded (.pdf) the 2010 Sylvester Stallone flick — meaning the number of defendants is likely to dramatically increase as new purloiners are discovered. Once an ISP gets the subpoena, it usually notifies the account holder that his or her subscriber information is being turned over to the Copyright Group, which last year pioneered the practice of suing BitTorrent downloaders in the United States.

Subpoenas are expected to go out this week.

All told, more than 140,000 BitTorrent downloaders are being targeted in dozens of lawsuits across the country, many of them for downloading B-rated movies and porn.


Many lawyers are mimicking the Copyright Group’s legal strategy, which includes offering online settlement payments, in hopes of making quick cash. The litigation can be so lucrative — with settlements around $3,000 per infringement — that two companies are both claiming ownership to a low-budget movie called Nude Nuns with Big Guns, and both firms are suing the same downloaders.

Not all federal judges, are agreeing to allow a massive number of subpoenas in a single case, but many are. The U.S. Copyright Act allows damages of up to $150,000 per infringement, and the cases all demand the maximum.

“It is well beyond time that the courts take control of these automated enterprises being run at great taxpayer expense with the active assistance of the federal court system,” said Lory Lybeck, a Washington state attorney defending about 100 BitTorrent defendants.

The IP addresses of the alleged copyright scofflaws are easily discoverable. Film companies pay snoops to troll BitTorrent sites, dip into active torrents and capture the IP addresses of the peers who are downloading and uploading pieces of the files.

The closest single lawsuit in size to the Expendables case targets 15,551 BitTorrent users for downloading a handful of porn flicks with titles such as Big Dick Glory Holes and Spin on My Cock. A judge has not decided whether to authorize subpoenas in that case.

Thomas Dunlap, who heads the Copyright Group in Washington, D.C., did not return phone messages. He informed the court Wednesday that, so far, he’s obtained 23,322 IP addresses (.pdf) that have allegedly infringed the Expendables, up from 6,500 when he initially filed the District of Columbia federal court case in February.


More details about the EXTENDED CUT (SPOILER WARNING)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320253/boa ... #182187846
Oh man, lots of stuff.

More dialogue in the opening scene from the team, and between Sly and Dolph when he's trying to hang the pirate.

The opening credits occur on the plane ride home, and show a lot of shots of the mercs (including a nice shot of Terry Crews looking at a picture of his family)

Slightly longer stuff a Charisma Carpenter's place, and then at Tool's place.

Dialogue between Sly and Statham in the garage, where Sly says that he mostly cares about the money these days. The following part with Dolph is a bit extended.

The whole team in the garage scene is much longer, Randy's ear monologue includes the bit from the script where he talks about beating up his college roommate for making fun of his ear.

More dialogue when Sly and Statham get to the dock in Vilena. And after that's over, there is a shot of Dolph sneaking out of the back of the plane, having stowed away during the flight.

More stuff between Sly and Statham, with Statham accusing him of having a black heart, before they part to look at the palace.

The racing back to the dock scene, shows some shots of Eric and his gang driving through a lot of carts and stuff in the town.

When Dolph meets with Eric, the dialogue is a teensy bit different and extended.

The whole stuff when Eric finds Sandra's paintings is the same dialogue mostly, but uses different camera angles and different takes by the actors.

Mickey's monolugue ends with him looking up at Sly in the mirror and not down.

The water boarding scene includes Gary elbowing Sandra in the gut while tying her. Garza interuppts the session and has his men take her away so she won't be tortured.

As said before, the fight between Jet and Dolph is must clearer and has some added/different dialogue. Like instead of saying "my turn!" he says "size matters!". And the stuff with Dolph "dying" is longer.

Longer stuff on the plane headed to Vilena.

Slightly longer stuff between Eric and Garza.

Once Sly rescues Sandra, it immediately cuts to them running and being ambushed. The interrogation scene is longer, with Gary saying more and kicking Stallone twice instead of once.

The only thing different in the tunnel fight, was that after Gary flips Jet onto his back, he he forcefully took the rifle away from Jet, and tried to shoot him, realizing that Jet held onto the clip. They square off, Gary says "you're good" and then attacks him. So slightly longer fighting.

After the tunnel fight Randy complains about having been shot in the back, saying "it stings", and Jet tells him to suck it up.

"Diamond Eyes" plays during the final shootout up until the fight between Randy and Steve. And the only difference in that fight was that Randy punched Steve almost immediately, not letting him stumble around on fire. Most of the shootout was the same, although they cut out Terry running out of the way of the tower falling.

Eric's speech at the end was slightly longer. After he's killed, it shows Randy Terry and Jet walking through the battlefield.

Dialogue in the last scene was slighty tweaked and extended. "Diamond Eyes" plays during the credits
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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Jox on 14 May 2011, 11:53

THE EXPENDABLES: THE EXTENDED CUT officially on EpixHD (where the doc INFERNO was also first shown) May 30!

http://www.epixhd.com/the-expendables-the-extended-cut/

There's even a promo trailer on their homepage
http://www.epixhd.com


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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby MacGyver on 16 May 2011, 00:03

You would think they would show something different.
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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Mosquito on 17 May 2011, 22:52

Jox wrote:European admissions breakdown
http://lumiere.obs.coe.int/web/film_info/?id=34911


Outrageous! Germany has more citizens than the UK or France but has less than half the admissions? SHAME ON US! Well, at least I can say it's not my fault. I went twice during the opening week. Still... :? :roll:
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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Jox on 18 May 2011, 12:48

Yeah the German box-office was somewhat disappointing because back in the day these kinds of movies used to do very well (UNIVERSAL SOLDIER did twice as much if I'm not mistaking) there. Same with Spain actually.
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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Jox on 23 May 2011, 19:37

Jason Statham's 'Expendables' Surgery at Center of Insurance Fight
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-es ... r+-+Movies)

Mosquito wrote:Outrageous! Germany has more citizens than the UK or France but has less than half the admissions? SHAME ON US! Well, at least I can say it's not my fault. I went twice during the opening week. Still... :? :roll:

It's a BR/DVD best-seller though:
Online sales continue to grow – 900,000 films were sold via electronic sell-through in Germany in Q1 and online rentals jumped 50 percent to 2.2 million titles – but the boost was not enough to replace the loss in traditional DVD and Blu-Ray disks. The top sell-through title in Q1 was Sylvester Stallone’s actioner The Expendables while fantasy title The Sorcerer’s Apprentice topped the rental charts.

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Re: THE EXPENDABLES - Sylvester Stallone (2010)

Postby Jox on 31 May 2011, 18:42

Did anybody check out the extended cut (which premiered yesterday on EpixHD)?
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